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Up your game with free cardschat membership. Remember Me? Forgot Password? This is a discussion on Collin Moshman - Sit 'n Go Strategy study group within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Would anyone be interested in doing a joint reading of Collin Moshman's "Sit 'n Go Strategy" book? Page 1 of 2 Register or Use the arrow to the right to read the next 1 page s. Collin Moshman - Sit 'n Go Strategy study group.
October 17th, , PM. Join Date: Sep I think this would greatly help my learning from the book, as it otherwise tends to sort of blur by. Join Date: Jan That's a great idea! Moshman's book was instrumental in shaping up my SNG game years ago. Maybe she would drop by every now and then with a few notes for your group. In any event, I wish you the best! Join Date: Aug I believe that the idea is doomed to success and I think you can do it , good luck!
Originally Posted by BearPlay. Join Date: Oct They are in Europe right now - but I am sure at some point one of them would drop by to post in this thread. Join Date: Nov I read this book 2 times, advise everyone, indispensable book who plays micro buy-ins sng or mttsng I'd be in this, though i havent read the books yet.
Originally Posted by Colbefc. Join Date: Jun I've read his book a few years ago and have a copy lying around somewhere. Count me in. Are we going to bring up points and discuss them? How will this thread work? Originally Posted by floweryhead. October 18th, , AM. Alright, I'm going to get things started with a short note on the Introduction. Normally I would not have posted anything for this section, as it is extremely brief, but I had some questions that I'm curious to hear other people's opinions on.
Introduction There's not much to say about this section. The very broad strategy is presented; Play cautiously in the early stages, while adopting an aggressive approach later when blinds are large. Questions How well do these concepts apply to other SNG structures? How well do they apply to 6-man SNGs?
I would like to join in here if the time and day is good for me and my work schedule. October 18th, , PM. I couldn't find my copy so I've ordered another off amazon and am awaiting it's arrival. However, I found some notes that I'd written on the intro about the blind structures but I'll wait until I reread it before I make too much of a comment.
What my note says is "How long are the blind for each level? But, like I said, I don't remember so I'll wait until I re-read it. Amazon quoted 25th of Oct for arrival. October 19th, , AM. Originally Posted by basse. October 19th, , PM. Jacki Burkhart.
Great idea! I'd like to join this "book club". This will be a re-read for me. I've read it once 2 years ago, then I read it again about a month later. Hi Basse. I had an idea whilst I was playing on PokerStars last night. As it's your thread why don't you set up a homegame on pokerstars for followers of this thread. If we had enough members we could discuss the gameplay and if willing to share have more access to the hands in question through our shared hand histories.
Just an idea but one that we could use to demonstrate ideas from the book. If we keep it at the lowest buy in limit and everyone took it seriously it could work well. Originally Posted by missjacki. My opinion on this question: 9 man vs. The value of winning the blinds in the later stages is monumental. I prefer turbo and can usually get screens going on turbo, but not always. I'd prefer to play 3 screens of the same speed than 4 screens of mixed speeds.
Join Date: Apr Ok I do have the book, so I'm in! Thanks for the detailed input! Do you play full-ring games when you play? I'm fine with different buy ins when I start playing for actual money , but I do strongly prefer full-ring over 6-man. October 20th, , PM. I study Moshman book now, and I'm willing to discuss both points that I don't understand well and those what I think I understand. I am not sure though, that it is practical to play our training sessions in special place where only members will play.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit October 21st, , AM. Join Date: Jul Originally Posted by dakota-xx. Havent ever read it. But comes highly recommended by quite a few players.. The only thing I have to say is that once you learn all the information remember that most good players now also know the same information. So try to find ways to use that against them especially around the bubble. October 21st, , PM.
Yeah, I agree. But for me, that is the next level. Currently I need to learn more basic concepts first. The first part to the "Critical Concepts" section expands on this, talking about tournament equity , and gives an example of two players going all-in, and how part of their tournament equity is distributed to the remaining players, rather than all being won by the winner.
A bunch of examples are given, for example, even with only 2 outs, getting 26 to 1 pot odds means that you should be calling against a single opponent.
Apparently David Sklansky dubbed this the gap concept. Questions Tight-aggressive: Based on how it is discussed in the book, it seems that one's early goal until becoming a "solid professional" should be to adopt a tight-aggressive style? Pot odds: The author claims that pot odds are the most important concept in determining whether to call a bet.
Based on tournament equity, it seem that one should really be using ICM-based odds. So, do people just use pot odds, and require slightly better pot odds if they have a larger stack relative to the total number of chips? Hypothetical example that I am curious about : 5 players already called the BB preflop, and you are the SB. What kind of hands do you call with in this situation? What kind of hands do you raise with? Join Date: Mar I've got the book and I skim through the bubble play every now and again.
Rereading the whole thing couldn't hurt though! A couple things I have to say about the book.. It definitely is a great read and fundamental to beating sng's but I find that a lot of what's in the book doesn't apply at low stakes imo.
Idk if it's because everyone has read this book, or because there's to many gambly fish! Just my opinion, either way I'm subscribed!
Sit ’n Go Strategy
We recommend this book and suggest ordering a copy from Amazon or whichever bookstore you use today. Like most SNG Tournament Strategies Collin Moshman divides his ideas up into the early, middle and late games based on blind levels — with a separate section for in the money play and career play too. The key factor here is to avoid big pots without very strong hands. Chips are more useful in the mid to end stages of SNG tournaments and Moshman advises extreme caution early to preserve them. Stealing blinds with solid hands would sum up this strategy section. While this is opponent dependant, there will be numerous situations in which no player has much of a hand either before the flop or afterwards. Players can take advantage by raising those solid hands which would have been folded in the earlier portion of the game.
Collin Moshman - Sit'n Go Strategy